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Considering a career transition?
Desiring to deepen the quota of passion & purpose in your work (& life)?
Transitioning to more meaningful work is something I’m constantly involved with.
Our School supports women to deepen their professional mastery in the embodied arts & often transition into careers as coaches. I’m also personally on my third career. Plus I feel like I have this conversation frequently with many of my girlfriends (including one this last weekend who has just closed the door on her career without knowing what’s next).
Who doesn’t want a more soul-satisfying career?
So I decided to create a 9-Part Limited Podcast Series exploring the deeper dynamics of changing careers & what it means to pursue your passions.
This series is perfect for the woman who’s quietly seeking a career change, actively navigating the chaos of change, or just wants to become a more interesting person in the way you relate to your work.
Today we kick the series off with a deep dive into passion, purpose & career. Exploring:
- Why we might feel hollow in our current career & where to find the (true) source of our dissatisfaction
- Is your career your purpose? A discussion of life, meaning & what we are really looking for in a new job.
- Why creativity & becoming an interesting person is more important than finding the next career to pursue
- The (necessary) descent into the unknown and why we must dissolve old identities in order to emerge with a meaningful new path
- We dive into my first two career transitions (one was a failure but the second was much more successful)
- 4 tips for feeling safe & secure in the swirls of change
This is the first installment of our 9-part series. Here’s what else we have planned:
- Ep1 – Passion, Purpose & Career
- Ep2 – Tolerating The Job (while we make a career change)
- Ep3 – Hold up. Entrepreneur? That’s not what I signed up for. Is it?
- Ep4 – Am I making the right move? The Career Change Stories of 3 Women
- Ep5 – Safety, Money & Starting Up a new career
- Ep6 – A Career in Coaching
- Ep7 – Return on Investment (in yourself)
- Ep8 – Career Change Stories: 4 Coaches Share Their Experience
- Ep9 – Embodied Ways of Working & Feminine Leadership in our career
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Resources
- Pursuing Your Passions Limited Podcast Series – sign up for all 9 episodes here →
- Julia Cameron, The Artists Way
- Feminine Embodiment Coaching – an emotional embodiment & vulnerability-based professional training for coaches
- Primal Feminine Flow – Embodied At Home Movement Practice
- School of Embodied Arts
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Transcript
(This transcript is generated by AI so might not be perfect)
Speaker 1 (00:02):
One of the conversations that I have incredibly frequently with friends and girlfriends, with my partner and in my own household is around career and how we can bring more passion and more purpose to the work that we do in the world. Just yesterday, actually it was over on the weekend, I was chatting with a girlfriend who is in the midst of one of these career transitions. And it’s not like she’s deciding I’m gonna quit this career and start this other one, you know, in a week’s timeframe. This is a transition that she’s been on for many months and perhaps even many years. And there was a big milestone where she decided to not renew one of her professional, uh, like the currency of her professional license, um, because she was opting away from an old career without actually knowing what the new career is yet.
(00:53)
And that was a really big moment of my friends stepping into the unknown, that we took a moment to really celebrate. Cuz it takes a lot of courage to transition and often it’s not a quick process. So in this first episode of our Pursuing Your Passions Limited podcast series, I wanna chat all things passion, purpose, and career for those of us who are seeking out a career transition. Maybe we are in the midst of navigating one, or maybe we are just wanting to become a more all round interesting person and consider more deeply the work that we do and what brings meanings to our life.
(01:33)
Typically, career transitions have, you know, for generations historically not been as frequent as they are now. Usually we would wait until we were in our forties and at midlife before most people began to think about, oh, what is the meaning here? What is it that I really wanna do? And let me make a transition towards something that genuinely fulfills me. But I noticed that in younger generations, myself included, these transitions and these questions around career and meaning are happening more and more frequently. They’re happening for women in their twenties, in their thirties, in their forties and their midlife and beyond. And they’re happening multiple times. Historically, most people would change careers an average of three to seven times in their life. That is not talking about changing the job, that’s talking about changing a whole career. But increasingly in current and future generations, some good studies have demonstrated that it may be up to five or seven different careers that we have during our working years, which just blows my mind.
(02:43)
And for myself, I can think about, well, I’ve had, I’ve had definitely two, probably three careers today, which I wanna share with you a little bit about and how I’ve made those career transitions navigating towards more passion and purpose because it is a really big life defining transition, which is often confusing and terrifying and it has a big dollop of the unknown planted right on top. But for many of us, we can find ourselves, particularly with the first career that we might choose, really lost in a version of success which is celebrated by our over culture, but which doesn’t really kind of meet the deep yearning that we might have for meaning leaving us feeling a little bit hollow inside. This was the case for me after several years, 5, 6, 7 years in my pharmacy career, which was the first career that I had. So despite training for four years, uh, as a clinical pharmacist and then doing post-graduate studies, so six years of university all up, and then working my way up the management pathway by my mid to late twenties, I was really looking at all I had achieved in this first career that I had and really questioning, is this what I want?
(04:05)
I’m sure I’m making good money so that I can buy nice stuff and have nice holidays and indulge in some luxury. And there is a lot of privilege in having secure, um, secure employment and the opportunity for education. So absolutely, I was on a really good wicket compared to a lot of people in the world. This work was leaving me feeling really hollow and burnt out inside. And I feel for many of us, we can find ourselves in really good sensible jobs, often jobs that we’ve worked for many years to get to, only to get to the top run of the ladder and realize this isn’t rarely where I wanna be. And that is a very uncomfortable, often uncomfortable realization to have because we’ve often found ourselves with a sense of security, perhaps financial dependency in, in that spot. So I think one of the first challenges that a lot of us have is that the version of success, which is celebrated by our over culture, is often measured in material means.
(05:18)
So we are successful when we have a big paycheck, when we have a nice house, when our house is renovated, or we can purchase that house when we can drive a luxury car, when we can have luxury things, when we can go on expensive holidays where we can, you know, this image, this idea of what success means often is associated with having a lot of money and being able to purchase a lot of luxuries in life. And I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with having those things, but we do have to question what is my core value that actually brings me meaning in my life? And I know for me personally, my core values aren’t of, aren’t centered on having more stuff. Those values aren’t the number one thing on my list of wants. The things that I value are being ravished by life, creativity, freedom, having new experiences and the space for slowness.
(06:33)
That’s what I really value. That’s what I really hunger for, to experience in my whole life, but also in the way that I work. And so I feel for many of us, when we’re feeling hollow on the inside, doing this work that conventionally looks successful, but inside is actually draining us because it’s subscribing to a set of values that don’t really fit who we are at our core. We have to get curious about, well, what are our actual values? What might be more important to us than a big paycheck? And have we identified and claimed that this over culture that we all live in tells us that the purpose of our life equals our career. And so for many of us, when we find ourselves feeling hollow from one particular career, generally, because it doesn’t actually match the values that we have as a human, we can begin to look for, well, what’s gonna be the next career that I’m immediately going to move into?
(07:39)
And I was absolutely guilty of this back in the day when I was working as a hospital pharmacist. And I realized this career isn’t for me. This doesn’t satiate me, this doesn’t stimulate me. This isn’t how I wanna spend the next three decades of my life. I immediately began looking for other careers and other jobs. I immediately began doing some adult work experience and I worked, did work experience in interior decorating and having a job at the market making bliss balls and organic salads and wedding planning and acupuncture, being an acupuncturist. So I had a wide variety of interests and I had no idea where those interests would lead. But it’s also very interesting and I think one of the things, the second key point here that I wanna make is that our career is not our purpose in life. And our passions can be very different to what we actually do for our work.
(08:42)
Many people, when we are unhappy or dissatisfied in our career, instantly begin to look for another career hoping that that will actually fix or fill the hole of purpose that we are looking for. And I really wanna challenge that assumption because I have found that it is not true. Our purpose in life is not to find what we are good at and then make a career out of that. Our purpose in life is not the job that we do. Our purpose is much more than looking for one solution, one career box to tick. I believe our purpose is our philosophy of how we live our life. And this comes back to the concept of, well, what are our core values and yearnings? What are the things that we hunger for? For many people, including a number of my girlfriends, when we are considering career transitions, we have this idea of, well, I don’t wanna do that anymore, but I have absolutely no idea what I might want to transition to.
(09:50)
Instead it’s just this big empty space, which can be terrifying. And so we might do all this random adult work experience like I did, but I actually feel, and in my experience, what I’ve noticed is actually a lot more useful is instead of focusing on getting a new career, one of the key stepping stones is to instead become a more interesting person by becoming a more interesting person. What I mean is expand your hobbies and interests, expand your creativity, explore who you are and what lights you up from here. Your natural gifts and inclinations become much more obvious. And instead of moving from one career box to the other, which will probably, uh, trans, uh, transfer all of the undesirable habits and traits that you have from your old career with you, instead of looking for another career box to jump straight into explore how you might become a more interesting person.
(11:02)
All of us are creative, all of us are interesting, all of us have passions and things that we are uniquely gifted at, either creating or doing, being or expressing. And I feel that this reclamation of creativity and this becoming an interesting person is actually such an important step on the career. Two, passion, purpose, and a future career because it really is about getting to know who we are. Again, the trick with becoming an interesting person is that for a lot of us, we are really exhausted. We’re exhausted from our existing careers and workloads. We’re exhausted perhaps from domestic labor and household work. Many women go through these transitions when their identity is shifting, often in relationship to being a mother, motherhood or carer. And so for many of us, we’ve got an old job that we don’t love and we’re too exhausted to find the new career because we are too exhausted to become a more interesting version of ourselves, a more creative, authentic version of ourselves.
(12:20)
So I was super guilty of this when I was transitioning careers. I stepped out of one box and straight into the next box. So I stepped out of my pharmacy career and straight into studying an energy medicine science called kinesiology. Now, I didn’t quit my old pharmacy career, I was still working in it part-time. And in a future episode of the podcast we’re gonna speak about on episode five, we’re gonna speak a little bit more about safety and money and actually feeling secure in the transition to a more passionate career. But for now, suffice to say that I still had a few days a week as my pharmacy work, but I began to study kinesiology jumping straight into a new career box without really exploring who I was or what really lit me up creatively. And as an interesting person, and you, if you know anything about me now, you know, will know that I’m no longer a kinesiologist.
(13:19)
That career lasted 12 months before I realized this is not for me. And I had spent thousands of dollars studying kinesiology. I had spent several years studying and training and trying to make myself fit into that second career box when it actually just was not the right fit for me. Not to say that it isn’t a wonderful modality. Similarly, there’s nothing wrong with being a pharmacist if that’s what lights you up. And I have some friends who, who are excellent pharmacists and it lights them up, then rock on with your bad self. I don’t believe there’s a career path which is better or worse, it’s just what fits for each of each of us. But the key point that I’m trying to make here is that when we jump from one career box into the other without really exploring the depth of who we are, what makes us interesting, what feels creative and alive for us, we are not going to choose the right career.
(14:21)
You know, it’s not gonna be a bad move because it will move you forward. And that at least is something I don’t regret all the time and money that I spent becoming a kinesiologist because it did support me to move forward. But it was a very short-lived career that I had to transition out of very quickly because it was actually very poorly suited to me and to my disposition. So what interests do you have that you might like to explore? What might lay dormant within you? Do you even consider yourself a creative person? I feel like these are essential questions for us to interrogate and to investigate because without access to the fuller spectrum of who we really are, how we then going to navigate towards a career that really matches our values and this sense of passion in knowing ourselves? That’s become so clear to me over the years when I was a pharmacist, I really did not consider myself to be a creative person.
(15:33)
I had a partner at the time and he was super creative. He worked in the visual arts industry and his whole family were entrepreneurs and always had different startups and wonderful wild ideas. And I used to look at his family, I’m think, gee, they’re just all so creative and I’m just not, I don’t have a creative bone in my body. And it actually wasn’t until I began to really question that idea of creativity and began to flex that muscle a little bit more. Some of the tools that I used to do that were painting and art expression, I also used the artist, the Artist’s way by uh, Julia Cameron, which is like a morning writing exercise that just kind of unblocked this idea of expression and words flowing through me. I’ll pop the link to that really lovely practice in the show notes. I’ll just make a note to myself to do that.
(16:38)
And then the third component was taking all kinds of different workshops and experiences from sensual dance to different types of yoga and movement and immersing myself in other ways of just exploring the world, exploring the facets of me, exploring my creativity, exploring my sensuality, exploring my expression. This all definitely contributed to me becoming a much more interesting person, and it also helped to clarify the direction of my passions and my creativity. So at this point in the journey of navigating towards more passion and purpose and career, the prompt that I really invite you to encour, like invite you to consider is what am I doing to support me becoming a more interesting person and pursuing those passions that may be dormant or that may just need to be strengthened within me?
(17:57)
One of the biggest challenges that we face in transitioning towards a new career is that it requires us to transition our identity. We are going to, and it is essential that we collapse the old version of who we are so that we can genuinely become something much more meaningful in our new career, in our new meaningful transition. When we speak about a career transition in this way, we can see that we’re speaking about so much more than just moving from one box to the other. What we are really speaking about is becoming more of ourselves expression, expressing more of our gifts to the world. And this is what happened for me with my second to third, uh, career transition, transitioning from being a kinesiologist into an embodiment coach, which is the work that I still do now to this day. So I had, when I was a kinesiologist, I had my own in-person practice in Brisbane, Australia.
(19:00)
I had this beautiful little studio, two blocks from my house with big glass windows that looked out with natural lighting. I had a beautiful space where I could receive my clients. And I worked four and a half days a week, one-on-one with all kinds of clients, clients who had physical complaints, emotional complaints, spiritual complaints, stress in their life, desires they wanted to actualize. And they would come to me for one-on-one kinesiology sessions for the first six months of that work, I was so loving it, I was so enjoying it. But once I began to really get into the groove of, okay, the novelty is worn off, we are moving into the six month mark and and into the 12 month mark of doing this work, I realized I had this same hollow feeling that I had with the pharmacy job. So here I am, like $6,000 in debt from renovating this beauty beautiful studio that was just like delicious with lots of natural light and also cost me a fortune to set up realizing I don’t think I want to be a kinesiologist anymore.
(20:13)
Oh my gosh, what have I done? I have just spent a fortune training and setting up my in-person space. And actually I’m realizing I don’t know that this was actually the right move. I believe the reason that that happened that I didn’t kind of land in the most suited career for me with that sec, that that career transition into kinesiologist was because there was no inner interrogation and descent into the unknown, the unknown, this unproductive and inefficient space where we are dissolving old ideas and old identities of success. And we are really entering into some chaos, some depth, some grittiness, which invokes us finding out who we really are at our core. I believe a really good career transition will have a phase of the unknown in it, which is very uncomfortable. Most people in our society avoid that phase of the unknown because of its discomfort, because of its lack of directionality, because of its lack of concreteness.
(21:33)
We were resist it like a plague <laugh>, and that had been me. But in my second career as kinesiologist, when I realized, well, I’ve, I’ve done all the right things to find a more meaningful career. I mean, kinesiologists are super spiritual. They do all this super spiritual stuff, shouldn’t this be the more that I’m looking for and that I’m hungry for? And it wasn’t. And this led to a lot of soul searching and a very necessary descent into the unknown, into really questioning what aspects of my identity am I holding onto here? What is it that really wants to move through me creatively and perhaps even as a new career? And it was so interesting because I eventually began to morph my kinesiology practice into more of an embodiment coaching practice. The reason that came about was because as a kinesiologist, I would put my clients on the table and use the, the science of muscle testing combined with traditional Chinese medicine to almost diagnose what the deficiency or the issue was with their body.
(22:46)
And then we would use quite spiritual and holistic, um, techniques rooted in traditional Chinese medicine to adjust those imbalances. And what I found about this way of working in the way that I had been taught it at least, was that it was actually very similar to my pharmacy, a way of working where there was a diagnosis and there was a problem with your body and you needed a certain input from somebody else to fix it. That didn’t sit so well with this deep part of me, which said, actually, you’re not broken. There’s nothing about you that is not deeply beautiful and worthy of being embraced. And so my practice naturally began to shift personally, but also in the way I was working with my clients to, instead of identifying the problem and trying to fix it, actually embracing the tenderness and vulnerability and loving it back into flow and completion.
(23:41)
And that’s a really subtle shift, but it profoundly shifted the way that I was working and really evolved me into this third career that I’m in now. Embodiment coaching. I took a lot of time to refine and master and train and develop those skills. And the way that I was working became deeper and more vulnerable and more felt. And instead of me diagnosing and fixing my clients, instead they had the power and we explored their goals and their desires and who it was that they wanted to become, which was so perfect because I was exploring those old th those same things for myself. But this career transition wouldn’t have been possible into something so aligned and perfect for me and my style of creativity without genuinely descending into the snotty messy, I don’t dunno what I’m doing and I’m destroying my old identity without the sureness of who I’m going to become.
(24:48)
I feel like the unknown is so challenging. The dissent and to the void is so challenging for so many of us because it can seem unproductive and inefficient. It might even seem unsafe because we might be stepping away from an earning potential or setting stepping away from a set of credentials that we’ve worked really, really hard for. And yet it’s very necessary to dissolve those old identities and let them go so that new identities can be begin to bring forth from that fertile place in the unknown. Some of the key things that we can do to stabilize ourselves and feel safe are I’ve got four different ideas and tips to help us stay stabilized and safe. If you are in that phase of dissolving some old parts of your life and that could look like careers or relationships, ways of operating, the first way that we can stay stable and safe is to have some of our money and our security pieces sorted out.
(25:54)
So in episode five, we’re gonna be speaking much more detail about money, but what I can say is that these transitions into new careers can absolutely be amplified in stress and in insecurity when we don’t have our money, things taken care of, it is very necessary and real in this culture that we live in. That money is literally how we purchase our security. So for me, when I was in this phase of transition and dissolving old careers and identities, there were a number of steps that I took to make sure that my money piece was secure. We’ll speak about them more in future episodes, but the two that stand out were that I spoke with, I had the privilege of having a partner and I spoke with them about our living expenses to see for a period of time what we could renegotiate and how my partner might support me.
(26:48)
Very lucky to have that support. And number two, I also significantly reduced my spending. I really looked at what I was spending money on and decided that there was a period where I was going to invest in myself and invest in my work. And that meant that certain other investments and certain other ways of spending my money on more luxurious things that I had become very accustomed to from having quite a high paying career as a pharmacist was something that were going to have to change. And I was willing for those changes to make place because I had a clear idea of what my values were. I valued my freedom and my creativity more than my desire to buy something new. Cuz I’m not gonna lie, that gives me a kick. I love buying new things. It’s just so delicious. And yet I have higher values.
(27:40)
So that’s not to say I don’t buy new things, but one of the questions that even to this day, I still ask myself, is this more important to me than my financial freedom, than my desire to go slow? Which often means working less and thus earning less. Is buying this thing more important to me than insert your values here? So this is one of the things necessary for us to stay stable and safe in the descent, really figuring out how am I financially going to be okay for the coming six months or the coming 12 months if we’re able to, not all of us have this luxury, but I feel if we can at least begin to get a mental understanding of what our budget or our money flow looks like, it actually does a lot to reduce the stress on our nervous system. Also, in full transparency, and I’ll discuss this much more in episode five, I kept working part-time as a pharmacist for many, uh, many years while I was studying and transitioning.
(28:42)
There came a point of course where I had to quit when I really stepped into kinesiology business. But I went from working five days a week to four days a week, to three days a week, to one day a week over several years. So I really went slow with the titration. I think in this age of Instagram, a lot of people look like, oh boom, I changed careers and now I’m making six figures, and it only took me two months. My transition was not like that. It was a lot slower and steadier and that might not be for everyone, but that really helped with this fertile descent into the unknown being something that was feeling safe and stable. My second tip is around community. So when you’re in this dissolution of old identities and careers, a lot of people around you, existing friends from that career path or family that might have supported you, they may think that you’ve gone a little loopy and that you’re making irrational decisions.
(29:41)
I clearly remember my very loving family asking me what I was doing, throwing away this perfectly good education to have a career as a, and it’s like, I don’t know how to pronounce it, this kinesia Wist. And it was a valid question. They didn’t know what a kinesiologist was, they didn’t know how it worked. It was something really foreign to them. So I can understand that there are often people around us who just think that the steps that we are making or the changes that they’re seeing happening in our life just make very little sense. And that can be really destabilizing because often it doesn’t make sense to us yet either. We are still exploring, we’re still navigating. We might not have yet the inner conviction to really take a stand for what we are becoming because what we are becoming is still evolving. It might still be unknown.
(30:33)
So it’s really important to surround yourself when you can with friends or communities or even podcasts like this one, where this discussion is normalized and when people are going to celebrate you, when you make perhaps unconventional decisions. One of my good friends recently to decided to not renew her license as a nurse. That means this career that she’s had a long uh run in is no longer open and available to her. She’s really shutting the door on her nursing career. And when she told me on the weekend, I took a moment and just really celebrated that decision. That’s bold, that’s ballsy <laugh>. That’s a delicious decision. Even though she doesn’t know what she’s gonna do next, there was a decision there to close an old door, that’s not what I wanna be. And really thus embracing stepping into the unknown. What is this new evolving creative identity?
(31:32)
She doesn’t know she’s in the becoming of that. And so it’s really beautiful when you can surround yourself with community or tap into resources like this podcast where there is a sense of this is a good and right decision and you are celebrated in it. I wish that all of us to have communities and people that can celebrate and see the boldness of these transitions that we go through. They might not make sense logically. They might have a bit of a balance, a bit of an impact on our bank balance in the short term. But when they’re bringing more passion and more purpose to the work that we are doing, when they’re bringing more of our values to life through our body and the way that we spend our time, what could be more meaningful? I really celebrate any of us that are contemplating these transitions.
(32:24)
The third tip that I have is to anchor into your vision. When you’re in the unknown and things are swirling and old aspects of you are falling away, I feel like it’s so valuable to remember your core set of values and desires, what you’re navigating towards. When I was in this phase of navigating my first and then second career transition, I knew that freedom was one of the key things that I desired. For me. That freedom was a very selfish personal freedom. Freedom from having to work in a certain location, freedom to decide how much I wanted to earn freedom to spend my time in the ways that suited me. So a very personal freedom and that freedom, that definition of free freedom has expanded and deepened and encompassed many more ideas of what collective freedom and collective liberation really means as I’ve matured on my path of career transitions.
(33:26)
But to begin with, freedom was my compass and it was the thing I was just, just so hungry and yearning for. I feel like when we can anchor into the thing that we are hungry for and we can use that as our north star to navigate, it can make the chaos and the swirl of the unknown and the dil dissolution of the old a little bit more tolerable because we have a sense of connection and faith in our body that this thing that’s alive within our heart, within our being will eventually make its way towards us. So whether you are defining one key word or a key set of values or a key vision, I feel like having that anchored in and coming back to that and finding ways that your body can tap into that even in the swirl of everything around you, is a really powerful practice.
(34:18)
The final thing that helped that is like my fourth tip around staying, staying, uh, stable and safe in the swirl of the unknown is to have a structure for your explorations. And this is where we circle back to being an interesting person. So when we are saying, well, I’m gonna let go of all these things that I don’t wanna do anymore, but I’ve got no idea what I wanna step into yet, it can be really overwhelming sometimes it’s nice to have a little bit of structure in terms of, well, how might I explore my way towards my interests and my passions? We’ve spoken a little bit more about some tips for becoming an interesting person earlier in this podcast, and I would add on to this layer in some adult work experience as a way for you to explore diverse careers that might spark your fancy.
(35:10)
I’ve already mentioned some of the work experience that I did, interior design and an acupuncturist and so many so, so, so many different really weird and wonderful careers. Can you imagine if I had become a wedding event planner? I, that’s just such a misaligned career for me. <laugh>, I’m so happy. I did work experience and decided this is not for me. This is not a genuine passion. This is some kind of weird fantasy that I had. But some of those structures around developing your interests as a person and also considering adult work experience, which I have read a lot about lately through various articles. I just think it’s such a lovely way to bring a little bit of structure and a little bit of progress to that space that is the unknown.
(36:00)
So as we begin to wrap up today’s podcast, if you’re in the earlier stages of contemplating a career transition, I hope that we’ve sparked some thoughts about instead of finding a new career to really latch onto, shift your thinking towards, well, how can I become a more interesting person within myself right here and now in this career? Knowing that that’s an essential stepping stone towards being more of yourself and or ultimately eventually making a much more aligned career decision and also bypassing, like doing a few wrong careers before you get it right. Actually, I think that step of developing yourself as an interesting person is really gonna shift things forward much quicker than you would imagine. And if you’re in the later stages of like if you’re in the midst of career transition, then I deeply hope that our conversation today around your vision and your values and what’s really driving this forward is something that might help you to anchor more completely into your new, more passionate, more purposeful work and life.
(37:13)
Our next podcast in this series, which is coming up soon to you, is going to be about tolerating the job. We’re going to be speaking on future podcasts around entrepreneurship, safety, money, and investing in yourself, and also here from some women who have recently navigated career transitions and really getting into the details of what that can look like. If you’d like to make sure you have this full limited series podcast delivered to your inbox, head over to Jenna ward.co/passion and we’ll make sure that you have all nine episodes hand delivered with a little love note from me so that you don’t miss an installment. Thank you so much for joining us for the Pursuing Your Passions podcast today. I’d love to hear what has landed. You can find me on the socials@jennaward.co or drop me an email anytime. And thank you so much for listening.
